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Re: Help pls got banned

Post by fun-evil » July 11th, 2011, 9:48 pm

ThOki wrote:
fun-evil wrote:here are demos for you if you forgot how you cheated :

fun-evil wrote:i didnt watched the demo

without words.
fun-evil wrote:so i think it was for good reason no ?

no
fun-evil wrote:but error is human , maybe it was one.

yes maybe, who knows without watching



In demo006 there is 1 situation that looks suspicious. The situation where he jumped from the top of the passage (to axis fortress). He jumped down and shoot directly on the allies player.
But if u jump down u have to look inside the entrance and the opportunity that there is an enemy is higher then there is no one. So u must be ready for a fight.

And i can also record games of skilled players, fun- members or visitors and u can find in all of them a suspicious situation. We can call it luck or whatever.

Not every Player who is innocent banned come to the fun-forum and complain about. They choose next et server in list and play there. Please think about.

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I am the same opinion like u. If |Master| used his old name instead of |Nomine| he wouldn´t be banned. It´s not the best way to hold good players on server.


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hey funny guy com'on

did i told that I BANNED HIM ?

heu ... NO

did i told that i was 100% sure he chated ? i guess heu ... NO

i just posted the evidence that another admins posted in forum to show him evidences.

i told that i didnt watched the video yes but i never gave opinions ; do you understand that ?

i just told him the reason of his ban and believed that it was a right ban.

never told that i was sure he cheated.

so please smart boy , i wouldnt be agressive or anything else , its not my aim.

but next time please post "intelligent" quotes and comments.

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Re: Help pls got banned

Post by -Storchel » July 12th, 2011, 1:08 pm

So maybe you, evil can just watch those demos and post your opinion about it here? :thinking:
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Re: Help pls got banned

Post by -Andy » July 12th, 2011, 1:15 pm

Same as Storchel, I did not know that |Nomine| and |Master| is same person.
Well, but this is not the point of this. I reported you because with name |Nomine| you were using wall hack in Gold server.

But I would like to know opinions from other |fun|Members|.
Just download demo and say what you think.

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Re: Help pls got banned

Post by fun-DFight » July 12th, 2011, 1:37 pm

fun-Storchel wrote:Well I don't know how so many people do conclude wallhack soo fast everytime again but in those demos I don't see ANY indication of wallhack, every of his kills can easily be explained with either skill and luck or with headphones and hearing the enemy's steps.

I say once again, unban this guy as soon as possible because it's not the first time this happened to him and if you just imagine his situation for a bit you will understand what I mean...


nothing to add it's just an skilled player.
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Re: Help pls got banned

Post by -Andy » July 12th, 2011, 2:05 pm

I am posting moments where I think we can find that he is using WH.

Before you will look to demos or screenshots I have to say that I really do not know why I have SW mod there.



    *1 The moment from demo0005
Nomine_.PNG

Please look on this part of the demo.
Before he came there, he was going to allies place. But after he turned and killed him.
This was little suspicious for me because I would like to know How he knew he was there?
Because without WH he could not see him behind the wall.

    *2 The moment from demo0006
Nomine__.PNG

This was little suspicious for me too.
He went there, waited maybe maximally 3 seconds and after went away.
I am sorry that I will say it like this but I think he was waiting there because he was looking behind walls if someone is there.
Maybe I am wrong.



And last thing which I want do add.

When you will download those demos and watching them,
please do not look how he is killing but how is he moving.
Because everywhere he moved, there was allies soldier.
And because he is skilled (how you said), he killed them.
I think that this cannot be luck.



Well, so this is my opinion about this.

I do not say I am not wrong, maybe he is really not using WH.
But I said what I think.
And now I am still waiting for others, because the more opinions, the better.

Thx.
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Re: Help pls got banned

Post by ThOki » July 12th, 2011, 3:47 pm

@Andy nice objectiv post

in my opinion:

1.Screenshot
if i remember right he looks first with his aim at the gate to see if there is any allies player inside and so he can get a "easy" back kill and while looking inside to be sure there is no one, he detected the afk player.

2. Screenshot
nothing special he waited for allies and as he see there is no one coming he know that allies choose the other way, so he goes there

But maybe |Master| can explain himself better


fun-Andy wrote:Because everywhere he moved, there was allies soldier.
And because he is skilled (how you said), he killed them.
I think that this cannot be luck.



I think |Master| just spended more time in playing for a good k/d ratio so he knows where he can find some allies, and he find them on typical (normal) places. the entrance, tunnel, left side of axis fortress, near the guns. he is moving all the time never camping and waiting, so sure he find some enemys.

and if u look the demos especially demo0005 there are also situation where he is surprised by allies player attacking him like in 8:45 minute (hope time is right) where he is at the medic/ammo point. And at time around 7:35 minute there is an allies engi by the axis command post so with wh |Master| would see him earlier, he detect or get attention of him as he hear the shots and allies engi left the transit.

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Re: Help pls got banned

Post by -Storchel » July 12th, 2011, 4:11 pm

I totally agree with th0ki here. The first screenshot was just a sort of a lucky punch because he saw that allied player standing there and the second one is just typically waiting for an enemy to appear.

And also, as th0ki already said there are several moments where he was surprised of an enemy and if he would have had wallhack he would have seen those enemies much earlier.

It would be nice to hear some more opinions here now, because as it seems 3 opinions against it are not enough...

@Andy: That SW mode appears if you open the demos from the ET main menu. Just connect to the server where the demos have been recorded, in this case Gold, and open the demos then ;)


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Re: Help pls got banned

Post by -Andy » July 12th, 2011, 10:00 pm

Thanks for opinions,
still waiting others.

Andy

PS. Thx for help with the mod, Storchel :smile:
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Re: Help pls got banned

Post by fun-GaRa » July 12th, 2011, 11:05 pm

EDIT:
After watching the demos all that I can say is that this is no sufficient proof to blame the player of wallhack usage.
In these demos I see no indication to wallhack usage, so I strongly recommend to unban this player.

fun-Andy wrote:I am posting moments where I think we can find that he is using WH.

    *1 The moment from demo0005
Nomine_.PNG

Please look on this part of the demo.
Before he came there, he was going to allies place. But after he turned and killed him.
This was little suspicious for me because I would like to know How he knew he was there?
Because without WH he could not see him behind the wall.

    *2 The moment from demo0006
Nomine__.PNG

This was little suspicious for me too.
He went there, waited maybe maximally 3 seconds and after went away.
I am sorry that I will say it like this but I think he was waiting there because he was looking behind walls if someone is there.
Maybe I am wrong.

Thx.
Andy

About those particular moments:

*1
He ran towards the allied spawn point
and
as you might had noticed before by watching the demo,
then he does check the corners occasionally when he goes through such places.

And also,
when watching the demo I couldn't help from noticing that you could actually see that player
and
in the matter of fact even hear sounds of him.
To prove what I just said I can provide this screenshot,
which is taken moments before he decided to check that "corner".
master1.jpg

About the sound, well that you can check by watching the demo.


*2
What you said can only be approved by someone who has wallhack him/herself,
so he/she can confirm if there was a player coming that way or not.
Otherwise that is just a conjecture which is not supported by any sufficient proof.
To be honest than during that map,
I myself use the same technique of waiting enemies to appear from the other end of the tunnel/coridor,
so knowing that we are dealing with an above average player in this case,
I find it much more likely that he was just waiting for sumone to appear in hope rather than in expectation.

So, unless there are other points you wish to be explained,
then I suggest to unban this player, as he is known by many
and from the amount of XP he has in Gold server,
he can be concidered as someone who likes our server
and enjoyes playing with us
:)


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Re: Help pls got banned

Post by -XioN » July 13th, 2011, 2:16 am

Just a sugestion!! are you guys wacht the demos in r-shownormals 1 ? just to be sure... Rob.
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